vendredi 31 octobre 2014

Re: [apple-iphone] Apple Pay, CurrentC, and security

 

Alice I heartily agree just wanted to point out why merchants want currentC. I certainly don't want to be tracked unless I opt in. We are data mined far too much already. Your disdain of those merchants has my full support. 

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On Oct 31, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Alice Saunders lwr32@mac.com [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi Susan, It should be up to me how much info a store has on me. It's bad enough stores I have cards with (Fry's, Target etc) have my info and keep track of what I buy. Now there's a payment system that wants to do the same thing.  I'm so tired of advertising. It's everywhere. I don't need more of it in my snail mail. 



On Oct 31, 2014, at 5:29 AM, Susan Ferraglio bladessf@aol.com [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi Alice - I think one of the biggest reasons merchants want to use it is the tracking capability. I read somewhere that CurrentC Keeps track of each phones purchases for advertising. Apple Pay does not allow that.
Sue

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On Oct 31, 2014, at 3:27 AM, Alice Saunders lwr32@mac.com [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

When I first heard of businesses shutting down Apple Pay, I de died right then not to use CurrentC.  There are many things wrong with it. From what I've been reading and hearing, those businesses who sign up to use CurrentC sign an agreement that they can't use any other payment system for 3 years and they'll be fined if they try to get out of their agreement. 

I do not understand why businesses haven't looked into CurrentC to see how cumbersome it's going to be to use. From my understanding, the reason businesses want it is there are no bank fees the businesses have to pay to use CurrentC.  If that's true, it just shows one of the many instances of businesses being greedy bastardized and not thinking of their customers first.



On Oct 29, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Jim Saklad jimdoc@icloud.com [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Major sales outlets, including Rite Aid, CVS, and Walmart, who are members of the consortium trying to bring out a payment system ("CurrentC") in competition with Apple Pay, have denied customers the ability to use Apple Pay in their stores.

CurrentC collects user data for loyalty and sales use, and is less convenient to use, and inherently less secure. And it isn't even available yet, and won't be for several months.

Meanwhile:

Just hours after publishing a blog post answering some questions about its upcoming CurrentC mobile payments system and touting the security of its cloud-based storage of sensitive information, the company behind the effort, Merchant Customer Exchange (MCX) has alerted users of unauthorized access to their email addresses.

"Thank you for your interest in CurrentC. You are receiving this message because you are either a participant in our pilot program or requested information about CurrentC. Within the last 36 hours, we learned that unauthorized third parties obtained the e-mail addresses of some of you. Based on investigations conducted by MCX security personnel, only these e-mail addresses were involved and no other information." 

Details on the unauthorized access have not been disclosed, but iMore's Nick Arnott earlier this week took a look at some of the personal information being collected by MCX and CurrentC and noted that he could ping CurrentC's systems to look for valid registered email addresses on the system. While he did not find valid addresses, the system appeared capable of returning a substantial amount of personal information about such accounts. 

Security has of course been one of the main selling points of Apple's new Apple Pay system, with data stored in a Secure Element on the device and payments authorized through Touch ID and tokenized account numbers being used instead of actual credit card numbers to process transactions.


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[apple-iphone] Shipping

 

I received my shipping notice for my iPhone. It'll be here in 2 weeks from China.

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Re: [apple-iphone] Apple Pay, CurrentC, and security

 

> When I first heard of businesses shutting down Apple Pay, I decided right then not to use CurrentC. There are many things wrong with it. From what I've been reading and hearing, those businesses who sign up to use CurrentC sign an agreement that they can't use any other payment system for 3 years and they'll be fined if they try to get out of their agreement.

AND they track some of the user and purchase data for sales purposes.

AND they require you to give them your bank routing and account numbers.

AND they store some of the information in "the cloud" (as opposed to a minimal amount, encrypted, on your phone).

AND the actual paying process is multi-step and cumbersome.

> I do not understand why businesses haven't looked into CurrentC to see how cumbersome it's going to be to use.

MCX has been forced to start back-tracking, saying members won't be fined if they drop out or accept Apple Pay. At least one supermarket chain (Meijer's, a regional American hypermarket chain with its corporate headquarters near Grand Rapids) has *already* broken ranks and stated they will be accepting Apple Pay.

> From my understanding, the reason businesses want it is there are no bank fees the businesses have to pay to use CurrentC. If that's true, it just shows one of the many instances of businesses being greedy bastardized and not thinking of their customers first.

Plus the user/purchase tracking — a second reason.

I don't expect to be able to use Apple Pay (in stores) until I can use Apple Watch with my iPhone 5S. If Rite Aid (my nearest and most convenient pharmacy, that I have been patronizing for decades) isn't accepting Apple Pay by then, I'm taking my thousands of dollars of medicine purchases annually over to Walgreen's.

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Re: [apple-iphone] App store instusion

 

I have done the accidental light touch on the screen on a visible ad and also ones not loaded yet but I have been redirected to the app store without touching the screen.

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Re: [apple-iphone] How do I stop iPhoto from loading when I connect iPhone to iTunes?

 

Thank you.  thank you.  Thank you.

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Re: [apple-iphone] Apple Pay, CurrentC, and security

 

Hi Susan, It should be up to me how much info a store has on me. It's bad enough stores I have cards with (Fry's, Target etc) have my info and keep track of what I buy. Now there's a payment system that wants to do the same thing.  I'm so tired of advertising. It's everywhere. I don't need more of it in my snail mail. 

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On Oct 31, 2014, at 5:29 AM, Susan Ferraglio bladessf@aol.com [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi Alice - I think one of the biggest reasons merchants want to use it is the tracking capability. I read somewhere that CurrentC Keeps track of each phones purchases for advertising. Apple Pay does not allow that.
Sue

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On Oct 31, 2014, at 3:27 AM, Alice Saunders lwr32@mac.com [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

When I first heard of businesses shutting down Apple Pay, I de died right then not to use CurrentC.  There are many things wrong with it. From what I've been reading and hearing, those businesses who sign up to use CurrentC sign an agreement that they can't use any other payment system for 3 years and they'll be fined if they try to get out of their agreement. 

I do not understand why businesses haven't looked into CurrentC to see how cumbersome it's going to be to use. From my understanding, the reason businesses want it is there are no bank fees the businesses have to pay to use CurrentC.  If that's true, it just shows one of the many instances of businesses being greedy bastardized and not thinking of their customers first.



On Oct 29, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Jim Saklad jimdoc@icloud.com [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Major sales outlets, including Rite Aid, CVS, and Walmart, who are members of the consortium trying to bring out a payment system ("CurrentC") in competition with Apple Pay, have denied customers the ability to use Apple Pay in their stores.

CurrentC collects user data for loyalty and sales use, and is less convenient to use, and inherently less secure. And it isn't even available yet, and won't be for several months.

Meanwhile:

Just hours after publishing a blog post answering some questions about its upcoming CurrentC mobile payments system and touting the security of its cloud-based storage of sensitive information, the company behind the effort, Merchant Customer Exchange (MCX) has alerted users of unauthorized access to their email addresses.

"Thank you for your interest in CurrentC. You are receiving this message because you are either a participant in our pilot program or requested information about CurrentC. Within the last 36 hours, we learned that unauthorized third parties obtained the e-mail addresses of some of you. Based on investigations conducted by MCX security personnel, only these e-mail addresses were involved and no other information." 

Details on the unauthorized access have not been disclosed, but iMore's Nick Arnott earlier this week took a look at some of the personal information being collected by MCX and CurrentC and noted that he could ping CurrentC's systems to look for valid registered email addresses on the system. While he did not find valid addresses, the system appeared capable of returning a substantial amount of personal information about such accounts. 

Security has of course been one of the main selling points of Apple's new Apple Pay system, with data stored in a Secure Element on the device and payments authorized through Touch ID and tokenized account numbers being used instead of actual credit card numbers to process transactions.


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Re: [apple-iphone] Apple Pay, CurrentC, and security

 

Hi Alice - I think one of the biggest reasons merchants want to use it is the tracking capability. I read somewhere that CurrentC Keeps track of each phones purchases for advertising. Apple Pay does not allow that.
Sue

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 31, 2014, at 3:27 AM, Alice Saunders lwr32@mac.com [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

When I first heard of businesses shutting down Apple Pay, I de died right then not to use CurrentC.  There are many things wrong with it. From what I've been reading and hearing, those businesses who sign up to use CurrentC sign an agreement that they can't use any other payment system for 3 years and they'll be fined if they try to get out of their agreement. 

I do not understand why businesses haven't looked into CurrentC to see how cumbersome it's going to be to use. From my understanding, the reason businesses want it is there are no bank fees the businesses have to pay to use CurrentC.  If that's true, it just shows one of the many instances of businesses being greedy bastardized and not thinking of their customers first.



On Oct 29, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Jim Saklad jimdoc@icloud.com [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Major sales outlets, including Rite Aid, CVS, and Walmart, who are members of the consortium trying to bring out a payment system ("CurrentC") in competition with Apple Pay, have denied customers the ability to use Apple Pay in their stores.

CurrentC collects user data for loyalty and sales use, and is less convenient to use, and inherently less secure. And it isn't even available yet, and won't be for several months.

Meanwhile:

Just hours after publishing a blog post answering some questions about its upcoming CurrentC mobile payments system and touting the security of its cloud-based storage of sensitive information, the company behind the effort, Merchant Customer Exchange (MCX) has alerted users of unauthorized access to their email addresses.

"Thank you for your interest in CurrentC. You are receiving this message because you are either a participant in our pilot program or requested information about CurrentC. Within the last 36 hours, we learned that unauthorized third parties obtained the e-mail addresses of some of you. Based on investigations conducted by MCX security personnel, only these e-mail addresses were involved and no other information." 

Details on the unauthorized access have not been disclosed, but iMore's Nick Arnott earlier this week took a look at some of the personal information being collected by MCX and CurrentC and noted that he could ping CurrentC's systems to look for valid registered email addresses on the system. While he did not find valid addresses, the system appeared capable of returning a substantial amount of personal information about such accounts. 

Security has of course been one of the main selling points of Apple's new Apple Pay system, with data stored in a Secure Element on the device and payments authorized through Touch ID and tokenized account numbers being used instead of actual credit card numbers to process transactions.


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Re: [apple-iphone] Apple Pay, CurrentC, and security

 

And that's on top of the security issues!

Otto

On 31 October 2014 07:27, Alice Saunders lwr32@mac.com [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


When I first heard of businesses shutting down Apple Pay, I de died right then not to use CurrentC.  There are many things wrong with it. From what I've been reading and hearing, those businesses who sign up to use CurrentC sign an agreement that they can't use any other payment system for 3 years and they'll be fined if they try to get out of their agreement. 

I do not understand why businesses haven't looked into CurrentC to see how cumbersome it's going to be to use. From my understanding, the reason businesses want it is there are no bank fees the businesses have to pay to use CurrentC.  If that's true, it just shows one of the many instances of businesses being greedy bastardized and not thinking of their customers first.


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Re: [apple-iphone] Apple Pay, CurrentC, and security

 

When I first heard of businesses shutting down Apple Pay, I de died right then not to use CurrentC.  There are many things wrong with it. From what I've been reading and hearing, those businesses who sign up to use CurrentC sign an agreement that they can't use any other payment system for 3 years and they'll be fined if they try to get out of their agreement. 

I do not understand why businesses haven't looked into CurrentC to see how cumbersome it's going to be to use. From my understanding, the reason businesses want it is there are no bank fees the businesses have to pay to use CurrentC.  If that's true, it just shows one of the many instances of businesses being greedy bastardized and not thinking of their customers first.

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On Oct 29, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Jim Saklad jimdoc@icloud.com [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Major sales outlets, including Rite Aid, CVS, and Walmart, who are members of the consortium trying to bring out a payment system ("CurrentC") in competition with Apple Pay, have denied customers the ability to use Apple Pay in their stores.

CurrentC collects user data for loyalty and sales use, and is less convenient to use, and inherently less secure. And it isn't even available yet, and won't be for several months.

Meanwhile:

Just hours after publishing a blog post answering some questions about its upcoming CurrentC mobile payments system and touting the security of its cloud-based storage of sensitive information, the company behind the effort, Merchant Customer Exchange (MCX) has alerted users of unauthorized access to their email addresses.

"Thank you for your interest in CurrentC. You are receiving this message because you are either a participant in our pilot program or requested information about CurrentC. Within the last 36 hours, we learned that unauthorized third parties obtained the e-mail addresses of some of you. Based on investigations conducted by MCX security personnel, only these e-mail addresses were involved and no other information." 

Details on the unauthorized access have not been disclosed, but iMore's Nick Arnott earlier this week took a look at some of the personal information being collected by MCX and CurrentC and noted that he could ping CurrentC's systems to look for valid registered email addresses on the system. While he did not find valid addresses, the system appeared capable of returning a substantial amount of personal information about such accounts. 

Security has of course been one of the main selling points of Apple's new Apple Pay system, with data stored in a Secure Element on the device and payments authorized through Touch ID and tokenized account numbers being used instead of actual credit card numbers to process transactions.


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jeudi 30 octobre 2014

Re: [apple-iphone] App store instusion

 

On Oct 30, 2014, at 8:45 AM, bobbystern@me.com [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I have been experiencing App Store intrusions while trying to read articles via various news sites.  My wife has the same problem.  I believe this started after iOS 8 was installed.

We start to read an article and then all of a sudden the phone skips to an app in the app store.  we have to close that window and then go back to the article we were trying to read.

That happens to me when I accidentally click on an ad that I did't notice that is promoting the app you were taken to at the app store. It happens with iOS 5.5, as well.


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Re: [apple-iphone] iPhone App controlled wall light switch

 

I use this one and it works very well. http://www.belkin.com/us/F7C030-Belkin/p/P-F7C030/ We also have one that has an outlet on it.

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On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:22 AM, gp6661@yahoo.com [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

I am looking for a wall switch for my outside lights that is controlled by an app on my iPhone. Does anybody have any recommendations? 


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[apple-iphone] App store instusion

 

I have been experiencing App Store intrusions while trying to read articles via various news sites.  My wife has the same problem.  I believe this started after iOS 8 was installed.


We start to read an article and then all of a sudden the phone skips to an app in the app store.  we have to close that window and then go back to the article we were trying to read.


I noticed in Settings-General-Handoff & Suggested Apps that there are toggles for My Apps and App Store.  I am wondering if these should be turned off.  Can anyone give me a better and clearer explanation of what these settings control?


Thanks,


Bobby

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