samedi 31 octobre 2015

Re: [apple-iphone] Malware in iPhone 6 iOS 9.0.2

 

China thing?  It affected Apple's app store.   Apple had to remove 50+ apps that had been constructed with the hacked version of Xcode and yielded apps that passed Apple's security tests.

<http://www.iphonehacks.com/2015/09/apple-removes-apps-infected-with-xcodeghost-malware-from-app-store.html>



There was also a problem with the china App Store. Some developers were not using tools direct from apple but from a third party site. Dumb and dumber. As far I I've heard that was only a china thing. Mike 



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Re: [apple-iphone] Malware in iPhone 6 iOS 9.0.2

 

Then it may not be of any use.
Any other app which may do that?

Best
PKS 

On 31 Oct 2015, at 22:00, Jim Saklad jimdoc@icloud.com [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

You can use DataMan to monitor both cell & WiFi data usage & provide alerts.
David

SMS text messaging requires cellular data, but Dataman does not log text messages separately from any other data use.

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Re: [apple-iphone] Malware in iPhone 6 iOS 9.0.2

 

You can use DataMan to monitor both cell & WiFi data usage & provide alerts.
David

SMS text messaging requires cellular data, but Dataman does not log text messages separately from any other data use.

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Re: [apple-iphone] Malware in iPhone 6 iOS 9.0.2

 

Thanks David.
Will try that should the problem recur.

Best
PKS 

On 31 Oct 2015, at 21:10, David Morganstein drm0223@mac.com [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

You can use DataMan to monitor both cell & WiFi data usage & provide alerts.

David

On Oct 30, 2015, at 9:52 AM, Brent flapdoodle@gmail.com [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 


On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Pabitra Saha pksaha000@yahoo.co.uk [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Recently, I was charged for SMSes to a Value added service, which I never sent.

On my query, my service provider informed that I may have downloaded an app called "emo" which automatically sends SMSes to a number.
I do not have that app.
All my apps have been download from AppStore.

Are there more such apps which do this.

Is this not a malware?

Does Apple team not check for such malware before putting them on to AppStore?

Best
PKS



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Re: [apple-iphone] Malware in iPhone 6 iOS 9.0.2

 

You can use DataMan to monitor both cell & WiFi data usage & provide alerts.

David

On Oct 30, 2015, at 9:52 AM, Brent flapdoodle@gmail.com [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 


On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Pabitra Saha pksaha000@yahoo.co.uk [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Recently, I was charged for SMSes to a Value added service, which I never sent.

On my query, my service provider informed that I may have downloaded an app called "emo" which automatically sends SMSes to a number.
I do not have that app.
All my apps have been download from AppStore.

Are there more such apps which do this.

Is this not a malware?

Does Apple team not check for such malware before putting them on to AppStore?

Best
PKS


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Re: [apple-iphone] Re: Malware in iPhone 6 iOS 9.0.2

 

Is AppStore country specific? 
I thought it was country linked only for prices  and currency method.

With best wishes,
P. K. Saha

On 31-Oct-2015, at 11:56 AM, mikerodgerske5gbc@yahoo.com [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

There was also a problem with the china App Store. Some developers were not using tools direct from apple but from a third party site. Dumb and dumber. As far I I've heard that was only a china thing. Mike

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Re: [apple-iphone] Malware in iPhone 6 iOS 9.0.2

 

I do not think that telco software will have this because then there would large number of complaints. That telco will lose credibility if not its license to provide service.

With best wishes,
P. K. Saha

On 31-Oct-2015, at 6:57 AM, Brent whodo678@yahoo.com [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I am not speaking of malware, but corruption in their billing software. 

Brent

Sent from my iPhone, please excuse any brevity. 

On Oct 30, 2015, at 4:00 PM, Pabitra Saha pksaha000@yahoo.co.uk [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I have not had any such experience so far but then you may be right.
This experience is also pointing in same direction, as you say but I believe that it is still too early to decide.

Now it is all automated and I think, incorporating such intentional malware in billing system is highly risky on the part of any Telco.

Best
PKS 

On 31 Oct 2015, at 01:10, Brent whodo678@yahoo.com [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Or it could be more of the baloney that they Telco's have been doing for decades. 

Way back, before cell phones and even pagers that you could carry, my dad kept getting billed for long distance calls to a number in Dallas, Texas. The Ma Bell insisted that he made the calls going back months. My dad asked them why he was making 20 minute calls to a butcher shop, when we lived in California. They credited him back several hundred dollars for that one, also.

Have you wondered why your phone bill is so hard to read? They do it to confuse people.


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Re: [apple-iphone] Malware in iPhone 6 iOS 9.0.2

 

Yes but it appears that one of the apps is sending SMS, unless telco is playing mischief.
I have barred almost all apps from using cellular.
Apps will be used only when I am in wifi zone or I will activate specific app if needed.
Wifi costs less than a third of cellular for data.

With best wishes,
P. K. Saha

On 31-Oct-2015, at 6:55 AM, Brent whodo678@yahoo.com [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

But your iPhone can use cellular. 

Brent

Sent from my iPhone, please excuse any brevity. 

On Oct 30, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Pabitra Saha pksaha000@yahoo.co.uk [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Yes, Brent.
I agree with you.
I have taken all the precautions by barring most of the apps from cellular use.
In any case, I am a mostly home bound person and have access to a wifi.
Most of the apps work with wifi and SMS can not use wifi ( I hope that is correct).
Thanks a lot once again.
Best
PKS 

On 30 Oct 2015, at 23:48, Brent whodo678@yahoo.com [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Pabitra, you need to remember that we can not see your devices and so we have no idea if you have only one downloaded app or hundreds. 

Usually, the apps you download from the AppStore are safe, but on occasion a bad one slips by. 

At this point, you could disable the third party ones, and only allow a few cellular access. By process of elimination, you can try to find the one that is the problem.

IF and I do mean if, one of them is a problem. It might just be an issue at your provider's end. 

Several years back, I gave a cell phone and was paying for top off cards for a friend. He was working for me and I needed to be able to reach him. I also set it up so he could call our distant mutual friend. But he seemed to be burning through the cards like crazy. Mike, being technophobic, I checked his online account, and saw that a lot of toll or added value calls were being made, but from being made first from the US west coast and then minutes later from the east coast.  So I called the provider, and asked if phone cloning was still possible. They said no. Then I asked them how the account could make calls from both coasts within minutes of each other. Final answer was that it supposedly was an error in their billing computer, to the tune of nearly $300 in just a couple of months. 

While it is most likely a rogue app on your phone, that is not the only possible answer. Especially since it is going to a VAS. Do a web search and see if there are other complaints about charges for that particular VAS.


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vendredi 30 octobre 2015

[apple-iphone] Re: Malware in iPhone 6 iOS 9.0.2

 

There was also a problem with the china App Store. Some developers were not using tools direct from apple but from a third party site. Dumb and dumber. As far I I've heard that was only a china thing. Mike

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I am not speaking of malware, but corruption in their billing software. 

Brent

Sent from my iPhone, please excuse any brevity. 

On Oct 30, 2015, at 4:00 PM, Pabitra Saha pksaha000@yahoo.co.uk [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I have not had any such experience so far but then you may be right.
This experience is also pointing in same direction, as you say but I believe that it is still too early to decide.

Now it is all automated and I think, incorporating such intentional malware in billing system is highly risky on the part of any Telco.

Best
PKS 

On 31 Oct 2015, at 01:10, Brent whodo678@yahoo.com [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Or it could be more of the baloney that they Telco's have been doing for decades. 

Way back, before cell phones and even pagers that you could carry, my dad kept getting billed for long distance calls to a number in Dallas, Texas. The Ma Bell insisted that he made the calls going back months. My dad asked them why he was making 20 minute calls to a butcher shop, when we lived in California. They credited him back several hundred dollars for that one, also.

Have you wondered why your phone bill is so hard to read? They do it to confuse people.


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But your iPhone can use cellular. 

Brent

Sent from my iPhone, please excuse any brevity. 

On Oct 30, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Pabitra Saha pksaha000@yahoo.co.uk [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Yes, Brent.
I agree with you.
I have taken all the precautions by barring most of the apps from cellular use.
In any case, I am a mostly home bound person and have access to a wifi.
Most of the apps work with wifi and SMS can not use wifi ( I hope that is correct).
Thanks a lot once again.
Best
PKS 

On 30 Oct 2015, at 23:48, Brent whodo678@yahoo.com [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Pabitra, you need to remember that we can not see your devices and so we have no idea if you have only one downloaded app or hundreds. 

Usually, the apps you download from the AppStore are safe, but on occasion a bad one slips by. 

At this point, you could disable the third party ones, and only allow a few cellular access. By process of elimination, you can try to find the one that is the problem.

IF and I do mean if, one of them is a problem. It might just be an issue at your provider's end. 

Several years back, I gave a cell phone and was paying for top off cards for a friend. He was working for me and I needed to be able to reach him. I also set it up so he could call our distant mutual friend. But he seemed to be burning through the cards like crazy. Mike, being technophobic, I checked his online account, and saw that a lot of toll or added value calls were being made, but from being made first from the US west coast and then minutes later from the east coast.  So I called the provider, and asked if phone cloning was still possible. They said no. Then I asked them how the account could make calls from both coasts within minutes of each other. Final answer was that it supposedly was an error in their billing computer, to the tune of nearly $300 in just a couple of months. 

While it is most likely a rogue app on your phone, that is not the only possible answer. Especially since it is going to a VAS. Do a web search and see if there are other complaints about charges for that particular VAS.


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Re: [apple-iphone] Malware in iPhone 6 iOS 9.0.2

 

I have not had any such experience so far but then you may be right.
This experience is also pointing in same direction, as you say but I believe that it is still too early to decide.

Now it is all automated and I think, incorporating such intentional malware in billing system is highly risky on the part of any Telco.

Best
PKS 

On 31 Oct 2015, at 01:10, Brent whodo678@yahoo.com [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Or it could be more of the baloney that they Telco's have been doing for decades. 

Way back, before cell phones and even pagers that you could carry, my dad kept getting billed for long distance calls to a number in Dallas, Texas. The Ma Bell insisted that he made the calls going back months. My dad asked them why he was making 20 minute calls to a butcher shop, when we lived in California. They credited him back several hundred dollars for that one, also.

Have you wondered why your phone bill is so hard to read? They do it to confuse people.


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Re: [apple-iphone] Malware in iPhone 6 iOS 9.0.2

 

Yes, Susan.
That was my first reaction too and still remains my primary suspect.
Involuntary touch is quite common, especially with touch screen devices and slightly unsteady hands with aging.

Best
PKS 

On 31 Oct 2015, at 00:34, Susan Ferraglio bladessf@aol.com [apple-iphone] <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

A couple of years back I got a 10 charge on my At&t bill for a similar VAS. I called billing. They said it might have been an errant click on a spam text. I didn't click on anything but my husband who is not tech savvy at all said he may have clicked indiscriminately on a text to get rid of it. At&t just dis-enrolled us from the service and credited the account the 10. 
Could it have been a spam text responded to incorrectly?? 

Cordially,
Sue Ferraglio-Genecco, DVM

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